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mum2charlotte

mum2charlotte


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PostSubject: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 8:35 am

I went to collect Charlotte from school and FOUND HER OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!! explode

The chool has a huge red gate which is opened for parent to enter to collect their children and it stands against a wall. Luckily, there is a space between the gate and the wall, just big enough for a 5 year old to fit through, and that is where I found her. Totally unaccompanied. She could have gone anywhere, and in the melee that is picking up time I wouldn't have seen her (she's quite petite, anyway) and I wouldn't have expeceted her to be there anyway, she should have been in her classroom waiting for me to collect her.

Am sending the Head a strongly worded email, but I needed to tell someone first.

Anything could have happened to her....
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 12:40 pm

that is not acceptable, the least you can expect from school is that your child is safe, make sure you request a face to face meeting with the head, you will be able to tell better about his body language isf you see him face to face.
make sure you get the answers you want ands don't get fobbed off
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 3:45 pm

Sent the Head an email voicing my feelings and reminding them that they have a duty of care to C, and that they breached that.

I received a reply which basically said not very much at all, but the head will be "catching up with me tomorrow".

I can't begin to tell you how horrified I was....I could so easily have walked straight past her, in fact I almost did! If it weren't for the fact that she has such an unusual hair colour (it's red like a fox cub!) then I WOULD have just kept going!

Tomorrow should be interesting.....
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 4:26 pm

Keep us informed!! I have a friend who is dating the Head of Security at Heathrow & he carries a machine gun!! Food for thought!! Watch out Head!! Woohoo!! xx
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 4:31 pm

I have truth, right, the law AND Grandma on my side.

How can I possibly fail in my quest to keep my daughter safe! lol!

Is it a big shiny machine gun do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 4:34 pm

Oh yes! Hardly used!! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime9/7/2007, 4:37 pm

If this carries on with school, then it will probably overheat!!

I have heard some very nasty stories from a couple of parents from school, so I reckon a few teachers will be lined up against the wall and we can all see exactly what the big shiny machine gun can do! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime10/7/2007, 1:32 am

Shocked hugging I really hope you give the head what for this morning. I dont know why Im shocked really I hear this happening all to often and its just not good enough. Dd managed to escape over a fence when she was in mainstream and she was about the same age C is now, when I found out it was the most terrible feeling Ive ever felt (dont think Ive ever felt so sick) so I know how you are feeling hun hugging Let us know how you get on xxx
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime10/7/2007, 6:10 am

oh god at my kids school in infants they keep the child in school until the parent or carer turns up to pick them up.
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime10/7/2007, 9:51 am

Yep., Sarah. They do that at C's school too.

Or at least that is what they are MEANT to do!
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime10/7/2007, 3:15 pm

Are they all lined up yet?? We're ready & poised for action!! xx
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime11/7/2007, 9:20 am

How did you get on mum2charlotte?
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime11/7/2007, 2:56 pm

I had to send a second email last night as nothing had happened, and (hopefully) I've successfully cut and pasted it:

Oooh, yes I have!!

(It starts at the bottom!)



Hello Carol
Yes - sorry for the delay. There has been a problem with the security
lock
on the door which has meant that it got stuck open or at least no
longer
child proof. We are working to resolve this! In addition Charlotte had
gone
off to collect her lunch box and then gone out through the door after
an
encounter with one of the Y3 pupils who was in the cloakroom.
Charlotte
told me today that she then hid between the bars of the red gates. I
am
aware that she is fond of hiding!
In response we have made sure that D A will be with Charlotte
when
she leaves the classroom at vulnerable times such as the end of the
school
day, to ensure that she gets from a to b safely. We are all deeply
sorry
that the incident yesterday occurred and have looked today at how we
can
make things even better. Naturally whilst we would expect pupils to
follow
routines and know to come back to the classroom, we understand that
Charlotte finds this difficult and that it has been unsettling for her
with
Mrs C away. We are helping Miss C come up to speed
with
Charlottes needs as quickly as possible.

Regarding your concerns about Charlotte being out of the classroom,
this is
happening at periods during the day where she is finding the classroom
environment stressful. For example last Friday she came up to tell me
that
school was not making any sense to her that day. At these times we are

managing her PDA as best we can, aware that direct confrontation places

additional stress so have been using diversionary tactics such as going
with
myself or Mrs A to do "important jobs" and then working our way
back
to class. We are planning transition work for next week with Charlotte
once
she knows who her new teacher will be. This information will come out
with
annual reports and newsletter this Friday. On Monday morning the
children
will spend part of the morning in their new classroom with their new
teacher. We anticipate doing some additional getting to know you time
with
Charlotte and the staff she will be working with next year during the
remaining days before the end of term. Please be assured that we do
have
Charlottes best interests as heart and are doing the best we can to
meet her
needs.

Thanks for your comments about the disco, Charlotte was very excited
this
afternoon about "the ball" and was very keen to know what the staff
would be
wearing! She got changed early so she could" have a practice in her
ball
gown" and we felt it important that she did this as we were aware that
she
might not stay at the actual event if there were too many people or
noise.
It was lovely to see her enjoying herself! I hope she didn't go pop
with
all of the sweet items she purchased!

Do pop in for a chat if you have any further concerns, we are very
appreciative of your support
Regards
G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol
To: "Head"
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Charlotte


> Hello
>
> Have you been able to discover how Charlotte managed
> to get out?
>
> I did hear that there was something not quite right
> with the school door as I heard a remark from one
> teacher to another saying "we must get that door
> sorted out".
>
> Does this imply that there is a problem with the door?
>
> I cannot understand how the 'Starling' (or whoever it
> was) opened the door and how Charlotte was not seen by
> the member of staff (or whoever it was) who opened the
> red gate to admit the parents.
>
> I am also concerned that Charlotte is spending time
> out of her classroom. I have mentioned it previously
> to M D, who referred me to Mrs C, but
> I still do not know where Charlotte goes, or why or if
> she is allowed to go. What worries me most, is if any
> member of staff actually knows where she is. If the
> school needed to be evacuated; would she be found? As
> you know, she is a little sensitive to loud noises
> (fire alarms, for example) and it would make her far
> more likely to panic and hide, and if her whereabouts
> is not known beforehand, then a lot of time could be
> wasted trying to find her, as she probably wouldn't
> answer if she was called. If the reason for evacuation
> were genuine, then whoever has to find her could
> potentially face injury...
>
> I'm sure you can understand my concerns, I need to
> know that Charlotte is safe within school and right
> now I don't.

>
>
> Carol
> ---
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Thank you for letting me know your concerns. I will
>> investigate how this
>> occurred, I am aware that Charlotte has been having
>> some difficulty staying
>> in class today but I will undertake to ensure that
>> Charlotte is accompanied
>> on her trips to collect lunch boxes etc so that we
>> can be sure that such an
>> incident does not occur again.
>> I will get back to you tomorrow
>> Regards
>> G
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carol
>> To: <
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:54 PM
>> Subject: Charlotte
>>
>>
>> >I came, as usual, to collect Charlotte from her
>> > classroom this afternoon only to find her in the
>> > school grounds OUTSIDE the red gate.
>> >
>> > Apparently, one of the Starlings had opened the
>> door
>> > leading from Owls and Starlings cloakroom and
>> > Charlotte had 'left the building'. Admittedly,
>> this is
>> > Charlotte's version of event and I have no
>> > corroboration, but to me that does not matter.
>> >
>> > I had to return her to school to collect her
>> lunchbox
>> > etc. I mentioned to Miss C that I had
>> found
>> > Charlotte outside and was told that Charlotte had
>> gone
>> > with M to collect their lunch boxes.
>> What
>> > happened after that, is not clear. To me, it is
>> > irrelevant. Charlotte was not in school, never
>> mind
>> > her classroom, when I came to collect her and this
>> is
>> > simply unacceptable.
>> >
>> > Any 5 year old is extremely vulnerable, whether
>> they
>> > have a disability or not, and the school has a
>> duty of
>> > care to my child which I feel has been breached.
>> >
>> > I await your assurances that this cannot and will
>> not
>> > happen again in the future.
>> >
>> > Carol
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime11/7/2007, 4:12 pm

Whats important here is that you are happy with the answers they gave you and you now feel that C is safe, it is right that when out of the classroom someone should be with her, especially knowing what she's like, so why was that not done before? a bit like shutting the door after the horse has bolted x
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime12/7/2007, 9:25 am

It's that lovely little legal phrase "duty of care"....

Funnily enough she has been escorted from her classroom for the last two days.
I can't imagine why......
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime12/7/2007, 1:50 pm

Things like this really get me annoyed, where I was working I picked up loads of things that were wrong but I was ignored, then when what I predicted happend they would then make the changes and make out it was their idea.
Ask Grandma how annoying I was working with her as I could see problems that nobody had even thought about, I think it's the paranoia in me Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime12/7/2007, 1:58 pm

My mum is like that too, she drives me potty giving me scenarios that nobody else could possibly think of!

It's annoying for 90% of the time, but it's good to have someone who sees something from every possible angle.

I reckon Grandma can take it!

More power to you elbow Kebab! There should be more people like you! thumbup
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime13/7/2007, 2:13 am

elbow?
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PostSubject: Re: Furious!!!!   Furious!!!! Icon_minitime13/7/2007, 8:42 am

OMG!!!!!!! Im in shock!!! How can they let this happen regardless AND knowing what C is like!!!

Im not suprised u were furious hun and good for u getting on top of them like u did they should be bloody well ashamed to of let this happen in the first place! ranting It doenst bare thinking about what COULD of happened and they are bloody well lucky something didnt happen! ranting Oh i tell ya this has made me so angry and imcompetence is not what u want when we send our kids to school!

I would have been as angry as u hun any how T was let away from the teacher's site like that and with all the sick people that hang around schools preying on young kids!

Hope this NEVER happens again hun and thank god C was ok hug
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